Talk:Xenelasia
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[edit]Practically, all the Doric states that did not pass xenalasia laws, lost their national character and soon their political liberty. Most of these cities passed under what was called "club-law" and the violence and killing never stopped. The only countries and city states that had peace were the ones that preserved their national character intact.
This needs evidence/justification... the whole introduction reads as an affirmation of the concept. No balance at all. I don't know that much about the topic, but these are pretty sweeping statements! 12.96.90.146 14:30, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)e
Vikings?!
[edit]Why on earth are Vikings included in this article?
A vandal inserted the word "vikings" and "singers" into the text. I removed them. And to the above assertion, Yes, I read books that is why the article is written the way it is, it is based on information from reading books and learning the subject material before writing. WHEELER 20:48, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Immigration to the US
[edit]Immigration Laws in the United States were quite strict; they restricted the amount of immigrants and from where immigration came from. In 1964, Ted Kennedy and another senator introduced legislation for unrestricted immigration, both in numbers and in place of origin, which was passed.
I deleted this assertion from the article, because it is factually untrue, misrepresents past US immigration policies, and slanders Senator Kennedy. Textor (talk) 09:55, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Miscellanea removed
[edit]I have removed the 'Miscellanea' section of this article, as it appeared to stray from the topic: this article should be about the ancient Greek system of xenelasia, not alleged examples of parallel systems in other societies and cultures (in any case, without sources, such examples are original research). The articles listed in the 'see also' section also seemed to be entirely unrelated. Robofish (talk) 21:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
This article is based very squarely and almost entirely on the work of Muller, whose Laconophilia and sympathy for racist supremacy is too well-known to deserve mention here. The slight, inconsequential mention from Plato and the citing of Plutarch on Lycurgus do nothing to redress the essential bias of this article - I added corrective comments to it, with references (we all read books!) in order to inform and alert the gullible to what is, to my mind, a gross distortion of a seminal part of world history, which comments were deftly removed (by the article's author, I presume) - this is NOT a free encyclopedia if such tendentious submissions are left to claim uncontested authority. A little learning is a dangerous thing, all the more so when wielded by someone so disingenuously. — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|Amladus] comment added by 2.12.242.207 (talk) 20:34, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Sources discussing xenelasia in Lacedaimonia
[edit]I have attempted to add some more ancient sources on xenelasia to the Lacedaimonia section but I am certain there are more! If anyone knows if there are any more fragments or decrees that give more details on the practice of xenelasia please, please add them.
(On another note, I generally tried to tidy up that section, quoted ancient sources rather than the uncited summaries of them that were there earlier, and moved the secondary scholarship and analysis to the end, all should be in edit history.)