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This article was nominated for deletion on 26 January 2010. The result of the discussion was keep.

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Removed Military History Tag as article is out of scope of the project. This article is not about a "real" military force.

"Real" implies that citizen volunteer militias are not a military force, and that assertion violates NPOV. Volunteer, nongovernmental, and guerrilla military units are historically valid, even within the USA. Secondary sources on the web, including video, show that militias like Michigan and Indiana have extended capabilities such as aviation, long range reconnaissance, maritime, amphibious, air-mobile (and in one instance I am aware of in my own firsthand research, one Indiana Militia unit has a HALO airborne squad). That sounds pretty real to me. JP419 (talk) 04:13, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD January 2010

I made the following comment on this article's AfD page: "Like the recently deleted article on the Indiana Militia, this organization is currently no longer notable. I suggested that the main points of both articles be worked into the article on constitutional militia movement if they are deleted. We honestly don't need multiple articles at this point and I believe we ought to merge them right away." JP419 (talk) 11:27, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for the AfD nomination. I was using this as a test balloon to prove bias between this and other militia pages that have been deleted. The decision to keep was the desired result and I wish to thank everyone that contributed! If I violated a rule by doing this, again an apology - I'm not a 'wikilawyer' and wasn't trying to offend. JP419 (talk) 15:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article name

"Michigan Militia Corps" was the name of the organization. Should that be the name of the article?--Pink Bull 16:02, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Michigan Militia" currently refers to all of the regional militias that were created by the breakup of the original Michigan Militia founded by Norm Olson. No single name applies, and every above-ground militia group in Michigan is considered 'the Michigan Militia' due to the national fame the early organization achieved in the 1990's. Unless a specific Michigan militia group with a distinctly different name distinguishes itself nationally with equal or greater fame then the original 'Michigan Militia', the term will likely remain unchanged. I may be mistaken. To remove all doubt, one could visit the Michigan Militia website and contact them. JP419 (talk) 15:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But isn't this article is about the original Michigan Militia founded by Norm Olson?--Pink Bull 01:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Encyclopedic purpose

Like many articles on Wikipedia, this article has been turned into a social media, POV pushing place for the subject of the article. From their own copy, there is no longer a single "Michigan Militia". There are instead several splintered organizations that espouse the same basic credo.

It is my position that every link to and selfsourced bit about any of the organizations be removed, the use of primary sources be closely evaluated, and an academic article about the movement created here. We do not need to be a webhost for some tiny obscure leftovers from a historically significant movement. John from Idegon (talk) 13:38, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]